Thanks for letting us know about this. i think it would be a better idea if we have a separate section on one of our anti 498a websites wherein all the victims of 498a misuse can mention the names of surpanakhas. This way any guy who wants to marry can check this list to rule out the possibility of marrying a supanakha.

Any other ideas are welcomed

well wisher

It is interesting that you mentioned this topic of divorced doctor girls.
For a while now I am thinking that one should keep away from ANY divorced female (no matter what her profession) from India. It is just not worth taking a chance. If she couldn't make her marriage work, there is a good chance that there was a 498A like situation even if a case was not filed, etc. The gilr is bound to say that the divorce was due to the fault of her previous husband, so that it self should raise a red flag. The boys these days are generally so weak and cowardly that the most likely the girl is the culprit causing the marriage to fail.

Dear All,
One of my clients was telling that he holds an US passport and that he booked appointment to take his wife to USA. In the meantime, he is enjoying a 498a.
He was telling that if he complains to the US Consulate about his WIFE troubling a US CITIZEN then her prospects of going to US, even otherwise is remote. He says that this stigma cannot be undone for her lifetime.
Just check if this info has any meaning. If it does, PLEASE POST BACK THE DETAILS AND MODALITIES TO ENABLE ME TO HELP OTHER FRIENDS ALSO.
Regards

GOOD IDEA

There should be Web site for Widowed Women registering their names like "Shadi.com.

Showing that they are better than 498A Divorced women, but they are victims of nature.

Site should expose divorced women in details and encourage widow marriages and empowerment of widows.
Than to risk by marrying divorcees, who may be 498A type or gone through 498A

This will create devide within women.

They will wake up to stop Missuse of Section 498A by unscrupulous women within them

I request you to read the question, carefully.
He is NOT AT ALL INTERESTED IN taking her to US AFTER 498A.
After 498a if he complains to US consulate ( he being US Citizen now) it appears the girl particulars will be recorded and she will not be permitted into US permanently. Is this right?

Hi Anantji'

Your client cannot bring her to US immediately after marriage,
unless he take her to Delhi at US Embassy and apply for her Visa as a USCitizen.
Even then he cannot get Visa immediately as he has to physically stay in Delhi
along his wife for at least one month.

Otherwise there are following rules:
Fiance visa ( K-1) is being issued to US citizens only.
It takes about 4 months to process and grant Fiance Visa
at US consulate at Mumbai.
No fiance visa is issued to US Green card holders or others.
Similarly spouse visa in case of US citizens take about 6 months,
But in case of Green card holders it takes about 5 years.

He should leave India immediately if he is on bail and reach US
and inform to Immigration & neutalisation Service (INS).

Yes it is true that once her particulars are recorded with INS She
will not get any type of US visa for her life time.

Regarding my case for your advice, I am writing the details and
I will get back to you within aday or two.

Regards.

Dear Ananthaji,
Here is some more feedback.

The problem is so serious that US state department has issued advisory to US citizens of Indian Origin warning as under:
A number of U.S. citizen men who have come to India to marry Indian nationals have been arrested and charged with crime related to dowry extraction.
Many of the charges stem from the U.S.citizen's inability to provide an immigrant visa for the prospective spouse to travel immediately to the united states.
The courts sometimes order the U.S.citizen to pay large sums of money to his spouse in exchange for the dismissal of charges

Canadian Government has also issued following advisory:
Growing numbers of Canadian citizens have been caught up
in marital fraud and dowry abuse in India. Most cases involve Indo-Canadian males who abandon their wives in India after cheating them out of large sums of money.
Other cases involve misuse of Indians Dowry Prohibition Act. This law, which was enacted to protect women and makes demanding a dowry a crime, is sometimes used to blackmail men through false allegations of dowry extortion.
Individuals facing charges may be forced to remain in India until their cases have been settled or pay off their spouses in exchange for the dismissal of charges.
To avoid such problems, you are advised to register your marriage in India along with a joint declaration of gifts exchanged, as well as consider a prenuptial agreement.


The Travel Warning issued by US state Department,
to US citizens of Indian Origin and similar Advisory
issued by Government of Canada regarding travel to
India to marry Indian Girls SPEAK VOLUMES about the
Extortion Rackets operating in India with collusion
of law enforcing machinery.

The said Warnings and Advisories suggest and confirm as under:
(1) That this problem is not on MINUSCULE SCALE
as made out by Indian Government.
(2) That the problem is REAL with NRI's and
Indian Diaspora, which has been investigated
in depth and found TRUE by agencies of the most
important governments of the world.
(3) These findings have not been contradicted by the
Government of India at any time so far is a proof
that such Rackets Exist in India.

Despite the presence of so many Indian-American
women's organisations, pro-women US laws, an
excellent legal system and strong police force,
to protect women; Indian women married to US based Indians are going to India to file criminal
cases under Indian Laws against their husbands and parents. over-ride the US Justice system,
and using Indian Corrupt, notorious and
in-efficient Judicial system.
The reason is very simple as under;
1. The IPC 498A of Indian Law is an
easy weapon to use for the criminal,
vindictive and abusive Indian wife/
daughter-in-law, with which the husband
and his entire parental family as well
as friends can be harassed, jailed, and
subjected to extortion and blackmail.
2. The US legal system and police force
investigates in details all the accusations,
and find the Truth.
If the woman is found to be lying,
she is being dealt with and punished.

Hi,

Regarding the process for bringing your wife to the USA as a US Citizen, it all depends on whether you filed a K3 petition from the USA (which will take a year or more) or a DCF petition from Delhi (which would take between 2-3 months). The process had changed as of June 1, 2006, so I am aware of the process upto May 31st.

* If the husband had stayed in India for 60 days or more before May 31st, he could have appeared with his wife in person in Delhi at the US Embassy and filed for her US Green Card (CR1 or IR1) visa.
* After this there was NO requirement for the husband to stay in India any longer after this point, though this process may have changed after May 31st, 2006.
Link: http://newdelhi.usembassy.gov/citizensh ... vices.html
* The "wife" should have been scheduled for an interview at her regional US Embassy/Consulate by mid-July and received her visa for entry to the USA within a week from then.
* All said and done, the boy and girl should have been happily enjoying the American summer by Mid-July, or max by August.

Note: The girl was not getting a H4 (dependent of temp. worker) VISA or F4(dependent of student) visa, but a US Green Card which would have allowed her to stay and work in the USA forever!

The girl who filed the 498a anagainst the boy, clearly did not care about all the time, money and energy the boy spent on this part in this sponsoring process, in addition to the efforts involved in getting the 60 days or more of leave from his work to meet the requirements for sponsoring his wife to the USA. Anyway, does anybody really think it wise for this boy to still take his wife back?

If anyone knows (on direct, first-hand, not hearsay experience) that a US Citizen can provide details on his 498a-er wife to the US Consulate or the INS in Delhi/USA, and that this will permanently bar her entry to the USA... please post your experiences..

All the Best and Fight the Good Fight my Brothers,
Venkat

1. Has anyone already started this "Surpanka List"?
2. If so, where can we add to this list?
3. What are the legal ramifications of posting her name in connection with this 498a case on the web, during the 498a case? and after the 498a is over? Can they sue for defamation or anything?

Since FIR is Public Document, Can that be loaded/ pasted in this forum or any other site.

Hi all, it is high time that we start a database of NRI girls who have filed 498A and DV on their spouses back in India. It is esp these kind of women who have a tendency to misuse the law. In India it is more dificultto hide if the fact that a divorce girl has files such cases, but its very easy to conceal in UK/USA/Austra/Canada.

Good Stuff Guys

Networking definitely helps.
In UK one of the forum members friend got back to me and I was shocked to learn that well crafted lies were said about previous marriage ( me being impotent  and a psycho) while a pending 498a case is ongoing in India which was sugar coated to the boy.
Sometimes the nexus between girls, politicians and police is such that “You never know whom you end up with” At least boys these days are smart to make some enquiries before signing off their life.
A database of these blood hounds is most welcome without revelaing too much personal information so the forum does not get into trouble and at the same time help future people not becoming one of us.

How about putting an RTI in Mahila Police Thanas of as many cities as possible.
We can demand following info

1) How many 498a cases were filed in the last 5 years
2) A list of all such cases with
a) name of the complainant
b) date when 498a filed
c) other cases filed along with 498a
d) how many males were accused
e) how many females were accused

Once we get this information in rti, it becomes a public information. It can then be displayed anywhere. More thoughts on this approach?

498afighter

This is really great idea, that way if not every girl or woman, may be few will start to think about their future.

Also there should be a way to make sure the entries are all real ones and not phony ones, any ideas on how to do that?


I was thinking about sharing a life with a divorced woman but now rethinking .


Thanks,